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Spinning My Wheels

There's no navigation system here, no timetable. The road I take could be straight, but I may encounter a few curves. I could run all night, or I could stall out in the driveway. My pedal's firm yet flexible. So, I'll just cruise along and see where my thoughts take me.

Aug 2, 2008 - Looking at Yaris with new eyes

I can't imagine an uglier little vehicle, besides the entire Scion lineup, than the 3-door Yaris. It looks like a car that left the factory without being finished yet. Its predecessor, the Echo, was a vehicle I wouldn't have taken even as a loaner car, with its too-big chassis and too-small tires. While contemplating a replacement for my aging 8th-gen Corolla, I had assumed that, unless I had need of a cargo-carrying vehicle, a Corolla would be the replacement vehicle.

But, generation X has now arrived in the Corolla line, and I'm less than impressed. Velour seating and power accessories come at a much higher price, even in the secondhand market I prefer. New Corollas are almost as much as Camrys! And Corollas have grown in size, to where they're as large as a 98 Camry.

I'm fixing up the old-timer this weekend, plugging up some leaks, treating it to new tires, belts and plugs,  all to the tune of  around $2K. While it's in the shop, the dealer is loaning me a 2008 Pacific Blue Yaris sedan with black interior, as basic as basic can be. What a surprise!

First, what a difference a back end makes. This is a handsome little sedan that's just about the same size of the old-timer. However, it seems twice as big on the inside because of the snub nose freeing up all the cabin space - you cannot even see the hood from the inside! Secondly, it drives great. Of course, it's not Buick quiet (no car is), but it handles railroad tracks very capably (and has a tire pressure sensor in case a nail gets in there).

I'm looking with new eyes at Yaris as a worthy successor to Corolla. Mind you, I'd prefer a car with velour seats, foam-padded steering wheel, POWER WINDOWS, and cruise, but unlike cars in the past, or as recently as ten years ago, even basic transportation doesn't mean I have to suffer. Yaris will take me to work or to the store in relative comfort. I can buy a steering wheel cover if I hate the feel of the plastic wheel, but on the other hand, it's a better quality plastic than, say, Chevrolet uses in their Cobalt, and that goes for the basic cloth seating, too. Chevrolet's seats feel like thin bedsheets, while the Toyota cloth is much better quality.

But Yaris is really going to need an overdrive gear to get the highway mileage up to the level it should be, which makes me believe Yaris to be strictly a city/suburban car. The only other choice would be to go to a manual - and who on earth wants to do that? Well, it's not as if I haven't driven one before, right?

If I were to buy a Yaris, I would like a blue one like my loaner, because it's a very attractive medium blue. It's not electric blue, it's not cobalt blue, but a nice "French" blue. It's the same color as my Alpine blue dinnerware that I got from Pier 1 Imports that I love. Then, I'd want NO CRANK WINDOWS. I'd want power windows and door locks. I love the central positioning of the gauges, but I'd really prefer an analog fuel gauge to the digital one. I'd then want an automatic overdrive transmission to help with that highway mileage. Granted, for the suburban driving I do, which seldom exceeds 50mph, it's fine as is, but again for road trips, the RPMs are going to be just too high without it. Finally, I need window tinting, air conditioning, a rear defroster, and something other than black on the interior color, especially in Oklahoma. In fact, I'd prefer a very pale gray or a beige interior to go with the Pacific Blue exterior.

From that basic layout, I'd have a very comfortable Yaris at a good price point - possibly the same price point from which I bought my old-timer ten years ago. I can't see paying what they want for a Corolla nowadays. It could be that Yaris would all I really need in a car. And if I hadn't taken my car in for service, and just judged Yaris by the hideous little 3-door model, I would have never found this out.

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mackabee - Aug 15, 2008 2:59 am
Iris, thank you for your comment on my blog. I hope things get better for you. Some advice on the Yaris and also suggies. The Yaris sedan you drove is actually a Toyota Belta and sold in Japan and European markets. The "unfinished" version we got is actually getting its brother in our showrooms later this month. I saw it in Mexico back in April and it looks very nice. Having said that, our version is quite a capable little car. Although it has a smaller engine than the Corolla it has plenty of torque to get it out of its own way. It also has a four speed auto transmission with overdrive. The only thing that I don't understand with Toyota USA is that once you option one out with the safety features that are standard on Corolla you come out with a car that is around the same price (abs, side airbags and curtain airbags) and also keyless entry, and power windows, locks, and mirrors. Unless you want a "strippie" then I would spend the extra grand and get the Corolla with the added safety of the VSC (vehicle stability control) which is optional but well worth the $250.00 retail price. Either way you can't miss. However, with gas prices and increased demand for these little guys it's going to be tougher to get a "deal" on one of them. Yaris is very reasonably priced and so is Corolla. Expect to pay close to or MSRP for these two stalwarts of the Toyota line up. Not so many months ago when supply was plentiful you could get substantial discounts. Wow! I just re-read what I wrote and it sounds like one of those car mag reviews! I might just have a second career in the works after all! LOL!
irismg - Aug 3, 2008 8:37 am
Hello and thanks for visiting. I see you are a new member. I must ask that you leave the anger/rudeness behind when you come see me - I don't have time for it. Now to address your question: If you've read my post I say most times I seldom go above 50mph. So yes, 65mpg would be plenty - unless I want to visit Tulsa. The turnpike between OKC and Tulsa has a speed limit of 70mph. It doesn't sound as if you've driven a Yaris and are getting those figures from your experience with its hideous predecessor. Yaris and Echo may share an engine, but that's ALL they share. Things like safety equipment, power accessories, and even a back end can add several hundred pounds to a car and thus affect mileage. So, just because Echo got those figures doesn't mean Yaris is bound to. Finally, for a car it's size, I think Yaris' mileage is just fine for the four days I'm using it, but it could be better with overdrive. This would also reduce the inevitable increase in noise level from higher RPMs. I've done the manual transmission gig for about five years 20 years ago. I'm not "prepared" to go back unless I have to - and I don't have to. I don't buy new cars, anyway. By the way, when my '98 Corolla was brand new, I got 40+mpg on the highway, too! Made those trips to Tulsa sweet. Thank you again for your interest in my blog!
highmiler650 - Aug 3, 2008 8:06 am
If you do not exceed 65 MPH you can achieve 41-44 MPG easily. Is that not enough? I had a 2001 Toyota Echo for 180k miles (same engine and transmission) and my average was 41 MPG, including my commute to work. If you want better mileage, wait for one of the small diesels to come to the USA. Be prepared to get a car with a manual transmission.
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